Incognigo Montoya

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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  Simon, please read everything I wrote, and then tell me where i said it was a big scandal.
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  Respectfully, no, no you are not right. You are being black and white. This has shades of grey all over it.
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  Right, but if you're gonna speculate how far he drove to buy it, you have to consider that it was, for him, 13 miles from home. 13. That's not far at all (see my previous comment where I shared the Google maps image). And could be in route to somewhere else he went that morning. Also, the other liquor store could've been out of his brand, or not have as many bottles as he wanted to purchase. I dont think the location, or the distance he drove, to be as scandalous as it's been suggested here.
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  Yah, if you Google maps it, it doesn't seem much further out than any other liquor store, from JW headquarters in Warwick. Possibly in close proximity, or in route, to somewhere else he went or was going.
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  Finkelstein, certainly a tight trench coat! That things about to burst! 😂
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  😂@ Deut
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  Exactly, ToesUp, exactly!
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  In hindsight, there are so many things that could've been said to him, by a person with the right disposition. "Hey! Wheres the party?! Looks like you're off to have a bit of fun?!" I wonder what his response would've been to that? Followed up by the conversation that took place, inquiring about the best scotch to purchase. Doubtful it would've frightened him away, and we might have gotten a bit more insight. As it stands now, I highly doubt he will ever purchase another bottle from a public distributor, and certainly not from that specific establishment. So, as to all of the speculation, a 15 minute encounter, once, in TM life, is hardly proof that he's a drunk, or something more sinister. But still worthy of our disapproval.
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  Simon, while I agree that on the face of it, he isn't doing anything wrong, and that the vast majority are making speculative statements and running with theories, creating rumors, ol Tight pants is worthy of scrutiny and is actually doing something inappropriate.

  Were you not, as a witness, admonished regularly, from the platform, and through publication, not to cause your brother to stumble. Not to bring even the hint of reproach upon jehovahs name and the organization? Tony himself has chastised the entire 8 million sheep, as to what they wear, as to witnessing to everyone they come in contact with, lest they become blood guilty. He's regularly appeared on JW Broadcasting, and refers to the Caleb and Sophia cartoon. A cartoon in which one episode encourages young ones to donate their tiny amount of allowance, to the organization, instead of spending it on an ice cream. Given all he has said and endorsed, should he not hold himself to a higher standard? He requires that from his flock... How much more so should he be accountable? He is a hypocrite. He is arrogant. He is worthy of scrutiny, for this action.

  I agree, the Cadillac is ridiculous. It's old. If it were new, or within a few years, yah, I might have a problem with that. But it's not. Those mentioning it, as though it's an immodest display or an "ah ha!" He's blowing the flocks donations on expensive materialistic status symbols, are grasping at straws. His trench coat and hat; its freaking raining outside, people. Nothing to see there except more grasping at straws. Speculation over who the booze is for, or if he's a drunk, it's all a stretch, and we aren't doing ourselves any favors making those kinds of accusations, without any conclusive evidence or proof.

  ...But, the position he holds. The status he elevates himself to, by being extremely vocal and going beyond what is written, insisting on his personal views when admonishing 8 million people, opens him up for our scrutiny. He is in the wrong here, by his own moral code.
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  My jw folks often go out of their way to avoid doing things that in and of themselves aren't bad, or forbidden, so as not to stumble others. How much more so should the 'mouthpiece of God', hold himself to a higher standard. There are a whole lot of speculative issues at play, in the video, and I think Lloyd does a good, balanced job of covering it all, but in the end, it's the perception, the potential stumbling block, that is the issue. With how much the thought of never doing anything to stumble your fellow brother, has been drilled into the minds of the sheep, you'd think a GB member, especially as outspoken and judgemental as Tony is, would not put himself in this position. (For all the reasons you all have listed previously; excessive drinking? Donated funds for purchase? The buying it out of town, on a Sunday morning, Etc) It almost smacks of guilty arrogance...